Ep. 67- Q&A What is Sex Therapy? with Jessica Holfeltz, LCMHC

Just a reminder to listeners that the topic of sexual health is an important step in the recovery journey, and if you are not yet in the place in your recovery to work on that piece, that is perfectly normal and okay. Listeners are invited to skip this episode if needed and rejoin on the next one!

All of our hosts, Becky, Autumn and Tiffany are together and joined again by sex therapist Jessica Holfeltz, this time for a Q&A session.

Jessica Holfeltz is the owner and clinical director of Resilient Roots Counseling, a sexual health and wellness center in Draper, UT. She works with a broad range of sexual concerns including Out of Control Sexual Behavior, Sexual Addiction, sex during and post-cancer treatments, pornography concerns, erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation, painful intercourse, broken agreements and betrayal, low desire and arousal, LGBT+, polyamory, and resolving conflict between spirituality and sexuality.  

Jessica uses Internal Family Systems (IFS), Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), as well as Mindfulness and Somatic Experiencing (SE).  She is currently running a men’s therapy group for Out of Control Sexual Behavior and plans to open up her schedule for another one, due to demand.  If you or someone you know could benefit from this type of group, reach out to Jessica, personally at Jess@rootedsexandwellnes.com to reserve a spot.

Jessica also serves on the Board of Directors of The Corey Holmgren Memorial Fund, a 501c3 non-profit that raises money and helps individuals and couples pay for therapy when it isn’t a possibility, financially.

Jessica currently lives in Utah with her sweetheart, Rob, their kids, fur babies, and chickens.

To begin the episode, Jessica acknowledges that the word “sex” in Sex Therapy can be daunting. She explains that Sex Therapy is a type of psychotherapy that specializes in sexual health, which is the balance of safety and pleasure of all types, not just sexual pleasure. She continues to explain that sex therapy can help couples get curious about where each partner is, create space for conversations, learn how to have conversations, and address the concerns dealing with the dysfunctional part of sexual health. Jessica reassures listeners that sex therapy only involves processing and talking through things, and the only difference between sex therapy and typical cognitive behavioral therapy is the subject matter being addressed.

The more curiosity we have about sexual health, in general, that weeds out the shame.

Jessica acknowledges the vulnerability of having conversations with our partners around sex, and shares how sex therapy can assist in that process. Jessica cautions that an ethical sex therapist will never push you to do something outside of your value or that is not comfortable for each partner. She also reiterates that for partners who have experienced trauma, finding a sex therapist who is also trauma-informed is important. Jessica shares how women experiencing healing from betrayal trauma may be ready to engage with their partners sexually, but can still have blocks around the experience.

That’s where sex therapy can step in - we get curious.

Jessica shares some of her personal experiences from her newlywed days when sex was painful. She relates the shame she felt, wondering if something was wrong with her or if the situation would ever improve. She explains that for listeners in similar situations, it is valuable to get curious around their pain, as different kinds of pain point to different potential treatments.

Pain is the body trying to communicate with us.

It is NOT a sign that we are broken.

Jessica instructs listeners that the number one rule is if sex hurts, to stop immediately. This includes the psychological pain that comes from intrusive thoughts. She explains that we do not want to teach our body to push through the pain with something potentially connective and pleasurable. She advises to communicate with your partner, to acknowledge your body’s response and listen to your body. Experiencing pain during sex even one time can stay with us and in our bodies, and we are likely to have another experience based on our bodies remembering the previous experience. This can allow you to take care of yourself and connect in a safe and pleasurable way. Jessica shares that when sex is painful, sex therapy can help couples communicate and explore other potential easy to connect and find pleasure together. She also explains the value in having a care team on the same page - there can be physiological explanations for pain, and she shares the wisdom in having sex therapists connect with their clients doctors, pelvic floor therapist, naturalist, etc…

Jessica explains that shame is a major contributor to sexual dysfunction and prevents couples from being fully vulnerable in conversation or with each other behaviorally. Shame is also a contributor to pain, as when we listen to our shame voice telling us “we are not enough” or we are “unworthy,” pleasure is unattainable in any form, not just sexual. 

In order to experience sexual pleasure, we must have a healthy relationship with pleasure in general.

Jessica shares how it is easy for women to become so busy serving others that they often forget self-care. There is immense pleasure to be found in taking care of ourselves. Jessica states that self-care is often a starting place for clients to get curious and pick apart how they engage in pleasure. She also explains that it is important to balance the safety and pleasure piece during sex.

We can’t fully say yes without knowing that we can say no.

Jessica encourages listeners to use their voice to be heard. She shares how sex therapy can help partners listen to each other and not feel shame when the other says no. She also explains how sex therapy can help couples navigate healing when sex is off the table to help them find a safe, slow build to where they would like to be. Being able to talk about low-stake pleasure through non-sexual touch, as both the giver and receiver, and communicating before, during, and after the experience can start to build intimacy and communication around pleasure at the same time.


Jessica’s Recovery Resources

“Friends don’t let friend use KY or Astroglide”

Instead, try these lubricants: 

-Uberlube

-Coconu

-Good Clean Love

-Sliquid


Jessica’s Recovery Song

“Welcome Back to You” by Aron Wright

“I love this song because it reminds me of my journey back home to myself. I don’t know exactly where I’m going or where I will end up, but I’m really loving this journey.”

Ep. 66- Hejdi's Story

Becky and Tiffany sit down with Hejdi, who shares her story. Hejdi lives in Georgia, has been married for 17 years, and has four kids. She teaches voice lessons and loves to run.

Hejdi shares that she was raised in a religious home where she felt loved and seen by God. Later, when she was dating her husband, she asked him if he struggled with pornography. He said yes and that he was seeing a therapist for it. However, Hejdi explains that “neither of us knew the monster it was.” 

Early on in their marriage, Hejdi shares how there was a “numb cloud” within her after learning her spouse was still struggling with pornography. “There were no emotions left to give others,” she says. She describes how it felt like this was “our” problem, not “his” problem.

Her darkest time came when she was pregnant with their third child and discovered her husband’s acting out behaviors had escalated to an emotional affair.

It was so sad because I knew what he was capable of, but he was so far into the addiction that he couldn’t see clearly. I was afraid I couldn’t save him from himself.

Hejdi shares how even though it was a dark time, she felt loved by God. She found supportive women’s groups and church leaders. “I knew there was somehow a beautiful plan for me and these children we’d brought into this world,” she says.

When asked when she started seeing hope and light, Hejdi describes how she had different levels of hope throughout the whole experience. Some points of help were learning concepts involving surrender and healthy boundaries, which came with hesitations.

I felt like boundaries were going to backfire—they scared me. That’s why it’s helpful to listen to other people’s stories. 

She reminds us that boundaries can change throughout the journey—just make sure the focus is on one’s own safety. Her women’s group felt like a “safe haven” here she could go and listen to others’ stories. “You feel heard and seen by someone who’s been through the exact same thing,” she says.

I put God in my center. I know He has me. Putting Him as my focus, I could trust Him. The second I tried to sneak my husband back in my center, you know instantly that I felt more stressed and crazy.

Hejdi shares that there are still some areas where she needs healing, namely allowing herself to have “off” days and saying “no” when she feels maxed out. She also has to sometimes fight the temptation to want to jump back in and control things.

When asked what role God has played in her healing in this journey, Hejdi explains that: 

He is my healing. He’s why I’m able to get up each day. He’s why I have hope when it seems so dark. He held and loved me when it seemed like I wouldn’t ever have true love in this life. He’s the solution to all pain. Finding His love is the reason why we’re here.

Hejdi’s Recovery Resources:

Podcasts

SALifeline 12 step

Find a good therapist—shop around.

He Restoreth My Soul by Donald L. Hilton

Putting on the Armor of God by Steven Cramer

From Heartache to Healing: Finding Power in Christ to Deal with a Loved One’s Sexual Addiction by Colleen C. Harrison and Philip A. Harrison

Clean Hands, Pure Heart: Overcoming Addiction to Pornography Through the Redeeming Power of Jesus Christ by Philip A. Harrison

What Can I Do About Me? by Rhyll Croshaw

Hejdi’s Song: “Breathe” by BYU Noteworthy and the Truman Brothers